Still Under DDOS, but here is a status update anyway. The Tor network is breaking.
/d/fraud icon


14,898 subscribers

Forum topics and responses should be dedicated to increasing user knowledge. Contact users on your own.

Go to /d/carding to discuss stolen cards

Go to /d/fraudship for partnerships



Do not post fullz


Only vendors on markets can get flairs.

2 Ways to cash out VC (Pinned post)

by /u/nomtim MOD · 35 votes · 2 years ago

Usually, crypto exchanges, money transfer and shopping sites disallow virtual cards for purchases. You need a card issued by a mainstream bank to purchase their products or cryptocurrency. Follow the steps mentioned below to cash out your VC.

Method 1:

1. Get a fresh fullz. Connect to a clean IP address and create a Paypal merchant account with the fullz.

2. Click Menu button > Pay and get paid > Create Invoice. Enter any amount. Send it to an email address that you have access to.

3. Pay with the virtual debit/credit card using Guest Checkout option.

4. Go to Activity section as a merchant and mark the item as a virtual product. It will take 7 days for Paypal to release your money.

5. You can then transfer it to any mainstream bank's debit card or bank account. Buy cryptocurrency with it.

Method 2:

1. Keep your virtual DEBIT card and a mainstream bank DEBIT card with at least 5$ balance in both of them ready. Connect to a clean IP address and create a FB account. Link your virtual card in the Payments section.

2. Connect to a different IP address and create one more FB account. Link the mainstream bank card to it for receiving payment.

3. Message something to your second account from the first one. Send at least 4$ to it. You will see PAYMENTS DISABLED error. FB will deduct 1$ from your card and ask you to confirm a code. Since you have access to the bank account, you can see it beside the transaction name. Enter it in FB. Your payment method will be confirmed. Next, send the money.

4. Verify your second account the same way. You can then receive the payment. Done!

Comments (50)
/u/skenan2 · 3 votes · 2 years ago · Link

thank you very much

/u/hxych · 2 votes · 2 years ago · Link

ur a real 1!

/u/Ratcity · 2 votes · 2 years ago · Link

Im super nooby to the point i habemt done anythinf just reaearched and setup software.

Option 1 step 5 you would probably want to use a mainstream bank that ismt in your name corrwct? Whats the beat way to create or aquire one? What is a good virtual vard? And those arnt connected to your name?

/u/nomtim MOD OP · 1 votes · 2 years ago · Link

Bluebird is the best virtual drop. It's easy to create. To open an account in any mainstream bank, you need bg & credit reports of your victim.

/u/Ganymedes OG Vendor · 1 votes · 2 years ago · Link

Plus not to mention the recent waves really made banks picky&choosy regarding their online apps.

/u/AnAlbatross · 1 votes · 2 years ago · Link

What about Chime, Varo, etc? Something like that was my plan, no bueno?

/u/Krocodile · 1 votes · 2 years ago · Link

is bluebird still good? I used to make it to get a debit card for loans but it got picky right before I took a break from fraud

/u/bottomfeeder · 1 votes · 2 years ago · Link

Bluebird always bucks me if I don't send it to the fullz address.

/u/lovemoney01 · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

hey mate would chime/ varo / venmo app be considered mainstream bank, if you get the card from them and activate it ??

/u/bagman22 · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

What type of fraud can you do with Bluebird, like what methods ?

/u/kira17 · 2 votes · 2 years ago · Link

Nice ????

/u/unkn0wn_ Kelly Price · 2 votes · 1 year ago · Link

so VC virutal card can i get a fullz with a credit card? like can you explain the VC meaning? because i can get fullz with credit card information easily from different websites i use, is that okay to use? im going to try method 1 if its not patched.

/u/unruly_bwoy · 1 votes · 11 months ago · Link

How did it go???

/u/ruslan819 · 2 votes · 11 months ago · Link

a very interesting method, but for beginners there are a lot of incomprehensible actions - how to create a PP account without being tied to a phone? how to deal with security? Is it possible that the card holder does not receive a confirmation of the transfer? As far as I know, the PP has tightened all transactions without confirmation of the card owner funds are not withdrawn from it

/u/smurfdude · 2 votes · 10 months ago · Link

You can set up go fund me using someone else identity then use cards to make donations on there and have it set to transfer to a drop you can withdraw from or buy crypto with. More logistics of course.

/u/InsertCleverNameHere · 2 votes · 4 months ago · Link

I'm surprised after reading through this no one has asked about another popular banking app. My mentality has become "if no one talking about it, I should look into it"

All in all though, this has been very informative. Thank you OP

stay safe

/u/upfor5dayz · 1 votes · 2 years ago · Link

are you applying for the vc or are you buying them from a vendor ? and if the method is to apply for the vc with the fullz do you enter the phone number from there bg report or a new number that you have control over? and whats the easiest vc to be accepted for and cash out ? sorry for all the questions just sounds really smart for a free method and just interested in doing it myself.

/u/nomtim MOD OP · 1 votes · 2 years ago · Link

No, you don't have to put victim's phone number. Some banks allow VOIP numbers while others don't so plan your moves accordingly. Like get a prepaid SIM if you're in the US or get a temp number from For VOIP #, there are alot of apps to get them. Bluebird approves you easily.

/u/upfor5dayz · 1 votes · 2 years ago · Link

Thanks for replying man, but yeah i completely have that whole part set up i have four burner phones with metro pcs. what im asking is are you applying for a credit card to get the vc or how do you get money on the vc

/u/lovemoney01 · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

one question mate i set up a acc with do they give you phones to just receive the sms text code???

/u/lovemoney01 · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

phone number..

/u/lovemoney01 · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

disregard my question on

/u/ItsEric142 · 1 votes · 2 years ago · Link

Thank you for sharing this.

/u/AnAlbatross · 1 votes · 2 years ago · Link

Just a note on method 1, Step 4 - after 48 hours, when sending a virtual item that you sold, the "purchaser" can go into the transaction and "mark" the item as "received", thus, instantly unlocking the money. Well, instantly, exactly 48 hours after the transaction happened.

/u/mainmantomm · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

Can someone confirm this? /u/nomtim?

/u/nomtim MOD OP · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

Yes, my method is to cash out using guest checkout. If you create an PP account, you'll see an option to mark the item as delivered after 2 days.

/u/mainmantomm · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

Thanks for this info. I am unable to m s g you or anyone. My account is only a few days old. When will I be able to do so?

/u/drethedino · 1 votes · 6 months ago · Link

when it's done by checkout method how can we mark as received

/u/temporaryaccgang · 1 votes · 2 years ago · Link

I Need some Clarification.,

So for the first method, we can cash out a vc account (like privacy) to paypal then to bluebird which provides a more valid vc that we can buy cryptoz with? or must we still get the proper plastic numbers thru irl drop

Thnx for the info, perfect stuff to get bakk in to the game wit

/u/nomtim MOD OP · 2 votes · 2 years ago · Link

Bluebird is not a mainstream bank. Use it as a drop to receive any loan or merchant balance. Not all lenders accept prepaid drops though. Then cash it out through Paypal. Why prepaid drops? Mainstream banks have tight security and verification questions. Don't receive a loan in a mainstream bank drop if it's new.

/u/anoncat · 3 votes · 2 years ago · Link

Hey dude, Sorry if this is a stupid question. I just took a look at the bluebird site and I noticed that they have two products, one being opening an account for the prepaid debit card and the other for opening a bank account.

I'm formulating a checklist based set of steps I'm going to need to take in order to get loan approved and I think I almost have it down, however, I'm new to US based loans. My question being, would we not have to also open a bank account through bluebird as well to receive the loan? I'm not sure how US lenders do things but I didn't think it would be possible for them to deposit funds into a debit card? I figured it would have to be a bank account.

Can you please clarify? And thanks heaps for this post it's another piece of the puzzle that I was missing :)

/u/2strikeswzdm · 1 votes · 2 years ago · Link

paypal will be allowing crypto withr=drawal soon. big win for us.

/u/nomtim MOD OP · 1 votes · 2 years ago · Link

But tax numbers should match with the ones on real tax docs of fullz. That's how PP verifies an account to enable crypto trxs.

/u/lovemoney01 · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

hey mate does paypal allow cryto cash out yet

/u/lamamalona88 · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

no bro unfortunately

/u/TOKIOOO · 1 votes · 2 years ago · Link

Its work in EU cc and banks drop?

/u/holidayman1988 · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

have someone you know as a shipt delivery driver and select them and tip the entire amount minus purchase fees

/u/freddie1989 · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

So I'm like a fresh noob when I comes too this but really willing to learn can anyone walk me through it properly cause I don't understand all the abbreviations and stuff

/u/GatoXzee · 1 votes · 7 months ago · Link

This is Late I know, but just in case there are other devoted eyes scrolling and wondering. There is a Guides section. Tis a clickable word underneath title of this sub-dreadit with dated, but foundational information. Thanks to Ginseng

-Cheers to All

/u/AutoModerator M · 1 votes · 7 months ago · Link

No direct links are allowed unless verified by the mods

This comment was posted automatically by a bot. All AutoModerator settings are configured by individual communities. Contact this community's Moderators to have your post approved if you believe this was in error.

/u/beforethemast · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

Sounds sick, but doesn't require you to log into your account with plaid and then send 2fa messages?

/u/Matte7744 · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

On step 5 of method one, this would be to a bank drop I would imagine. Is it best to create your own bank drop with fullz, and if so which banks allow online creation of accounts or how would I go about that?

/u/ADHDBRAIN · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

If OP (or anyone) could answer that would be cool. on step 5 do you deposit that paypals money into another bank acc made with a different fullz and if you do why not just send it there in the first place

/u/Mendex · 1 votes · 1 year ago · Link

I'm not understanding the first method. So I am going to attempt to explain how I interpreted it. So you have a VC with a balance that you ultimately want to hold as real cash in your hands or real crypto in your crypto wallet.

You grab a fresh set of fullz and make a paypal merchant account. Then you send money to another paypal account? or what? I'm not understanding step 2. Like once you make your merchant account and you enter any amount to send to an email why are we doing that?

Is it basically making a paypal merchant account to pay another paypal account? And then transfer the cash from the second paypal to a bank drop? Can someone please help?

/u/FuckPutin · 0 votes · 9 months ago · Link

What they're trying to say is: you want either cash or crypto from a virtual debit card you loaded. Most exchanges don't allow VCs as a payment method.

Now, you create a merchant account under someone else's fullz. You send an invoice to yourself. PayPal WILL accept the VC to pay the invoice. Now you transfer the money from PayPal to a mainstream bank (real card preferred, not needed).

Now, you use the card or AN/RN from mainstream bank to buy crypto, or the card to cash out at an ATM.

/u/riseandshine · 1 votes · 11 months ago · Link

does it work with CC nor VC ?

/u/hunflynn999 · 1 votes · 9 months ago · Link

Whats thest place to get full and a valid vacation for nubes I heard gold non-vcv

/u/naga69juls · 1 votes · 9 months ago · Link

For method 1 is it possible on a mobile or do I need opsec setup


/u/dd0ctorstr4nge · 1 votes · 8 months ago · Link

whether you are on mobile or desktop you still need to keep opsec a priority...

/u/HPHD · 1 votes · 6 months ago · Link

I need to cash out a virtual credit card and then I need to refund the virtual credit card when the balance is 0 would I be able to do this and make the PayPal go overdrawn?