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A New Era In Fraud.

by /u/atomisk · 17 votes · 1 week ago

Hey guys, i see a lot of newbs here asking a million questions about every subject their is and i feel like Newb questions are bogging down the real progress of developing real current techniques that can get thousands of people paid.

90% of the questions you guys ask are for thing that will never work. like creating a bank log when you can buy them for a few dollars, printing Nigerian checks, and so many other things that are not productive toward the goal that we all pretty much have, which is getting paid.

fraud parameters have changed tremendously from even 3 years ago when dread started and their are still no dread threads for "developing researchers" on the forefront of whats new and changing.

What i can say to you guys is STOP TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL most of the things your spending hours doing have already been threaded. you guys need to learn how build on current fraud techniques. Most of you guys have become so entwined with believing your setup just needs to be crisp and you'll make a ton of money(that was 4 years old).

Things have transformed due to A.I. you need to meet certain milestones and parameters to be registered as a true purchasers. A.I. systems are taking billions of dollars in transactions and cross examining their sequences and behavior in order to verify you as a true user so if you don't know how it wont work.

If you guys don't know me I'm one of ginsengs original students and one of the last members still here from the secret society. If you decide you want to contribute or need help just drop a comment or DM i will try to be on dread more often.

Because of the amplification of organic user behavioral detection in the last two years i have began researching and documenting these changes and set out a clear line of which parameters are ranked the highest in widely used A.I. Systems to get a better view at what organic user detection is developing into.

Comments (27)
/u/fabechelon18 · 4 votes · 1 week ago · Link

THANK YOU for this.

A huge reason why I dont post/contribute/collaborate much on here is because of the

A. outdated terminology/threads/subdreddits,

B. the insane amount of n000000bs looking for a quick buck/thinking theyve almost got it all figured out and

C. the scammers that exist because their shit is WORKING on yall mf'ers. Like no, you CANNOT buy a physical cIone with the pin written on it for $25 and get it in the mail tomorrow.

-_-

glad to see someone trying to steer the ship in a more productive direction.

/u/jorge_penda · 2 votes · 1 week ago · Link

i am new

i want to learning whatever information you want to give

i haven't cash out on anything

i'm looking and seeing how everything works

just learned how to use socks

and understanding how vpns work

plus what they are

i bought a vbv but it fake

gotta learn how ever way

trying to put in more time because thats most important

/u/atomisk OP · 2 votes · 1 week ago · Link

i hate to sound like a broken record but you want to go back to the ginseng posts and read up. All of the basics are there opsec, socks, and some(very little) currently useful operational informational as well.

/u/w1boo · -1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

Hey man i got some CC US , do u wanna coop to cash out? i dont know how too

/u/olddirtybastard · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

ripper

beware

/u/Ganymedes OG Vendor · 2 votes · 1 week ago · Link

If you guys don't know me I'm one of ginsengs original students and one of the last members still here from the secret society. If you decide you want to contribute or need help just drop a comment or DM i will try to be on dread more often.

Secret society? Holy buzzwords Batman!

Your post can be summed up with general common sense blowing much hot air, and very translucent attempt at herding the flock.

/u/atomisk OP · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

so out of seven paragraphs thats the only thing that felt to comment on. Do you have anything to actually contribute?

/u/Ganymedes OG Vendor · 2 votes · 1 week ago · Link

I said and contributed all that I felt was needed on this occasion. Have you?

/u/unkn0wn_ · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

++++ Post. Just upvoted this!

/u/fabechelon18 · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

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/u/AutoModerator M · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

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/u/rasta7171 · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

can you share your thoughts on AI and how they identify authentic users?

/u/atomisk OP · 3 votes · 1 week ago · Link

/u/jandaa is correct but the cool thing here is that most people perform the same behaviors across all platforms when buying things ( unless that prices are widely different), but also you want to remember that YOU ARE HUMAN. Think about how you behave when your spending your own money shopping online. We are all skeptics and bargainers. you want to perform the same way when imitating.

/u/jandaa · 2 votes · 1 week ago · Link

the AI learns how an unauthentic user or robots behave through continuous data feeding that differentiate both users..this in part creates a pattern in long term..that helps the AI grow smarter and smarter everyday..AI is like compounding..

/u/unkn0wn_ · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

Bro theres a Dread for Vendors and you can look at the subdread for DNM and stuff like that. Also /d/Recon works to check for authentic and vouched users.

/u/unkn0wn_ · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

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/u/Z0mbie · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

This post is a tiny bit confusing. ginseng was an alright guy.

/u/atomisk OP · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

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/u/kokomo · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

i have began researching and documenting these changes and set out a clear line of which parameters are ranked the highest in widely used A.I. Systems to get a better view at what organic user detection is developing into

Could you tell us those parameters?

/u/atomisk OP · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

there are a lot of payment processors that are using different AI systems to process their payments and a lot of corporations have built them out personally but most have simply adjusted (a specific) build to fit their companies customers profiles, but some are very basic like your urgency to purchase, are you a repeating customer, the common amount that their companies customers spends and a few others. but this doesn't tell you the full scope because each companies Ai is becoming more tailored to their specific company and that's the info pool being pulled from when you make a purchase, but git hub doesn't exist for nothing. Their are some developers working openly on this software and are using the latest versions.

/u/newvegas · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

Any ideas how our setup can reflect the requirements of these AI systems or is it mostly behavior based? Does browser and ip play a bigger or smaller role in risk prevention?

/u/hclacidburns · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

I am just starting to get into hacking for profit activities. I want to catch myself up on techniques that actually work currently. What would you suggest that I research for a small payday as a warm up?

/u/atomisk OP · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

Despite what people say being a beginner can actually work in your favor because where your starting and your motivation is key. Its not like 4 years ago where you start on the front end of the dark net for your research you actually need work backwards now and the most valuable technique rn is having authentic profiles that meet every milestone. Without this you wont be able to do pretty much anything.

/u/newvegas · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

"Authentic profiles that meet every milestone" what do these profiles look like? Browser setups? Confusing

/u/atomisk OP · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

Over 100 countries with different beliefs, religions and walks of life and different reasons why their spending their money but when we shop we all do the same things. this is the science behind why 2 factor authentication was made. What different? what different can we do to tell if they're really making their purchase? To fix the initial fraud issue this was their question. but what they didn't realize is how inconvenient two factor would be with different cellphone carriers and methods of authenticity. They are attempting to make two factor easier but as we all see roll outs have been slow and have been unpredictable or flat out rejected by organic users, Except cellphones which can be sim swapped depending on the brand.

I'm writing this because this is the kind of thought you need to have when operating. You need to be able to think in specifics in order to ask the internet the right questions to return viable answers. Which is kinda how an AI works.

Do you remember the first dollar you spent? Probably not! That's how much experience you have with making purchases...you can do it.