User discussion about the DNMs and Vendors.
User discussion about the DNMs and Vendors.
by /u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman · 29 votes · 4 weeks ago
Seeing as the whole "BTC is traceable and not safe to use on the DarkNet" thing hasn't really translated to the large section of (mostly noob) darknet users flicking the switch off and moving to XMR, perhaps the massive transaction fees associated with BTC at the moment might be that blessing in disguise we all needed.
it would be great if markets used the current circumstances to help usher users towards XMR using the best motivator of all - that shit is expensive to move about!
Users and Vendors use your power to encourage the switch or forever be at the mercy of BTC's potentially high transaction costs.
1 large Crypto exchange(Binance) turns deposits and withdrawals off and BTC transaction costs spike tenfold.
come on! it more spent on BTC transaction fees is less money for users, vendors and subsequently markets!!!
BTC just doesn't make sense anymore considering that it is unsafe and cutting in to everyone's spending and profit.
What say you DNM community?
/u/HumanPie NewKidInTown · 7 votes · 4 weeks ago
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Great post, and I 100% agree.
There are some very good and easy to follow resources on how to transition to XMR:
See /d/Monero, specifically the Frequently asked questions pinned post;
The XMRGuide site which can also be found on /d/Monero's banner menu;
The /d/DNMBible.
/u/zerocool P · 12 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Most definitely. It's really surprising that this hasn't been done yet. I guess one of the issues is people being unfamiliar with XMR but really if you know how to handle and manage BTC its no different with XMR. Just a different wallet.
/u/ChemicalsInChains P · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
100% agreeed
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/u/biscuitofeternalcrunch · 4 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Fully agree with this post. After a bit of a break from DNMs save a very occasional purchase, I made the switch over to XMR when White House Market was clearly the best game in town and basically forced me to. People will change if pushed, even new users. The majority of buyers aren't going to give up on getting their drugs online because it's a hassle to learn something new.
Tribe Seuss offer a discount to people using XMR. A soft approach, but it would be nice to see it replicated on markets if possible, failing the markets collectively coming together and banning BTC. Presumably these fees are a nightmare for everyone - customers, vendors, markets. On top of that, it's not as anonymous. It seems many people are dealing in an expensive, insecure currency (BTC) out of fear that if they don't, they'll lose customers. But all of those customers once had to learn to buy BTC in order to get their drugs, and they will learn to use XMR.
I think it would need coordinated action from the markets to do this though. No one is going to want to be the one market taking the hit by banning BTC (WHM managed this but I think there was much less competition at that point?) but surely at this point, it's not in ANYONE's interest to keep using this ridiculous ponzi scheme of a "currency".
/u/ChemicalsInChains P · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
yea seriously i moved $300 with a $54.78 fee like holy fuck redicolous
/u/Pure_Reality-52 · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
thats crazy!! i just transfred 300$ worth of xmr only cost me like 16$
/u/ModernGhost · 2 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
That still seems like too much especially for XMR
/u/Pure_Reality-52 · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
sorry that was my fee when i bought XMR off of CW my transaction fee from wellet to wellet then to makret was less then 5$
/u/Tripsy · 2 votes · 3 weeks ago · Link
My recent Monero TX fees averaged around 0.006$ each, what wallet do you use? It shouldn't cost that much lol
/u/Pure_Reality-52 · 2 votes · 3 weeks ago · Link
im new to all this, more then likey just reading it wrong, i use CW and FW
/u/ChemicalsInChains P · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Yes ik
/u/wolfjubilee · 1 votes · 3 weeks ago · Link
I only learned to use XMR because the market I was using required it. Didn't take long to figure out this was 100% the right choice. I'd much rather join a market that required it.
/u/WompDad · 3 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Lead by example. I switched all my listings to XMR only, all other vendors should do the same
/u/quasar1 Staff - Dark Matter Market · 3 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Someone once told me that BTC is digital gold, and XMR is digital cash. I think once you begin to view it in this aspect, usage of each becomes more clear. That said, a very large majority of DNM users still struggle to obtain XMR and are solely comfortable with BTC. Markets that still accept BTC do so understandably, because if not they would be losing out on a lot of business (and this is coming from someone who works on a market that only accepts XMR). Eventually though, like all things, the status quo needs to be challenged.
/u/Slicker12 · 2 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Alot of us never even used btc in the first place. It fascinates me how many people are using bitcoin and think it's "anonymous" by default.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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to be fair - i was one of the masses that didn't until WHM 'forced' me.
more an ignorance thing than the laziness that seems to prevent most people from learning how to use XMR and shift it from BTC
/u/ChemicalsInChains P · 2 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
I honestly think its been time to use Xmr ONLY for all markets IMO, bitcoins fees are insane the past few days, so i definitely agree 1000% to this post!
/u/iceheap · 2 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
recent spike in bitcoin transaction fees has made it a less attractive option for many users as well it's affecting the vendor's business the network has become congested in resulting in longer wait times and higher fees But still we have seen many transactions where people are preferring only btc don't know why
/u/HumanPie NewKidInTown · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
I assume it's not as beginner friendly due to two main reasons:
Tails comes with a Bitcoin wallet and not a Monero one;
Bitcoing is a tad easier to purchase physically and digitally.
/u/biscuitofeternalcrunch · 2 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
I suspect the vast majority of people who have bothered to use Tails already use XMR because they're concerned about security, no?
/u/iceheap · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
I don't think feather is that hard to install on tails ,user just have to download the app image and save it to persistence and one time setup of permissions to executable
it's true that Bitcoin is relatively easy to purchase but with the high fees it can be costly for buyers to acquire Bitcoin at this time , eventually buyers may end up paying more than they intended to for their Bitcoin purchases
/u/fatzor · 1 votes · 3 weeks ago · Link
its also more difficult to purchase monero with fiat currencies
cash by mail not withstanding
/u/nlimited · 2 votes · 3 weeks ago · Link
Honestly I could not agree more. People are people though, and tend to use the "laziest" path.
WHM proved successfully that a private coin can be used in practice, and together with higher transaction fees of BTC it gives us some hope.
/u/miner21 · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
I think all markets are moving to XMR. I see many new markets are only using XMR. I think some markets use BTC mostly because lots of exchanges dont use or support XMR. I think teaching vendors and buyers how to convert and where to do so safely would help move it along faster. I think if Zcash were more mainstream and users sent transactions anonymously all the time it may have a use case in the DNM as well. You cant rely on a single technology for your safty.
The one thing that scares me with bitcoin is the open ledger. If LE identifies your wallet, they can trace and charge you for your illegal transactions. The BTC ledger is complete and permanent forever.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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the open ledger is exactly why it shouldn't be used for the purposes of DNM's.
/u/fatzor · 1 votes · 3 weeks ago · Link
given it has been that way since the beginning why was btc ever the choice of dnm users to begin with..
the ledger goes back to the origin of btc
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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chain analysis wasn't a thing.
now it is
/u/newbieforever2018 is not a newbie! · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Remember the last time that btc fees soared and users started moving to litecoin and ethereum which were a fraction of the cost to transfer? it took a while for vendors to hop on to accepting those alt coins but they did.
Great topic and indeed it should be the final push needed to cause more widespread xmr as default usage.
/u/CurlyDock Superlist - Incognito PR · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Markets would've gotten rid of bitcoins long time ago, however, buyers don't want to switch to monero. Buying and using bitcoins in much more convenient for them.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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not when it's $50 a transaction it isn't.
that's what the post is about mate.
/u/biscuitofeternalcrunch · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Markets and the wider community can affect buyer's behaviour though. WHM did this. The vast majority of personal use buyers are never going to WANT to change currency, but countless did when WHM pushed them in that direction, and are much better off for it. Myself included.
And as don't laugh says above - the fees are apparently insane at the moment. That fact will also hit business - people buying less drugs, or choosing to go back to getting it on the street.
/u/allahcaust · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
XMR is infinitely better than BTC and should be the de-facto standard. that being said you can still use BTC anonymously even if it came from KYC sources as long as you know what you're doing. i believe BTC should still be an option for advanced users but have XMR be the default.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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unfortunately it's mostly being used by the inexperienced users.. you cant police whether a user is experienced or not and frankly there is no reason an advanced user NEEDS to use btc over xmr
/u/Puppet · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Yes! If you need to be advanced to use BTC anonymously, then XMR seems more convinient with its privacy features built-in.
/u/allahcaust · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
that is literally what i said in my post.
also, to /u/dontlaugh, there's no reason someone NEEDS free-speech, there's no reason someone NEEDS Tor, there's no reason someone NEEDS drugs.
with bitcoin being the #1 cryptocurrency in the world it seems foolish to force advanced users who clearly already have a reason to be using BTC in the first place to not use BTC and to instead use an altcoin, even if XMR is superior.
i expect market owners and managers to be competent enough to evade and defeat chainanalysis tools, public or not.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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good luck offramping that BTC in the near future.
times are changing and 'advanced users' dont use BTC as their crypto of choice - it's mostly the noobs that can't figure out how to convert it.
/u/Spicebar · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Guys, please tell me where I can purchase XMR. Also might sound a bit of an idiot but I'm not sure where Ican get best direction for PGP. Would be extremely grateful... Thanks
/u/HumanPie NewKidInTown · 2 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Hi!
Please see the /d/DNMBible sections Cryptocurrencies and PGP, read through them as I'm sure you will get a lot of your questions answered. Furthermore, jump to /d/PGPPractice to test how well you understood the message encryption and decryption processes. For any further questions please head over to /d/DarkNetMarketsNoobs.
/u/Spicebar · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Thank you very much for taking your time for such a comprehensive reply, much appreciated...
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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have you read the /d/DNMBible?
/u/Spicebar · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Thank you for your time.
/u/Pygmalion · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
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/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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mate - i'm just using the current events to draw peoples attention.
try being a little more civil next time - and refresh the rules.
/u/Pygmalion · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Yea that's cool. Sorry to spoil the party. :D
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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was a little out of character mate.. all good?
/u/Pygmalion · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
I just have a very dry humor.
People can rarely tell when I am joking.
But ye, kinda pissed off at the moment. Check out moderators chat.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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will chat there.
/u/cthulhuskittens · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
this should have happened a long time ago. & to everyone saying "but people won't use a market that's XMR-only," didn't a hugely popular xmr-only market just exit-scam, leaving a bad stench & a trail of snakeslime in its wake? if nothing else, they proved people will in fact use an XMR-only market. it's super easy to set up an account on localmonero or one of the wallet apps that lets you swap btc to xmr. people should be staying off kyc exchanges anyway. i'm still a comparative n00b & even i can see this is a no-brainer
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/u/LittleBitsUK · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Unfortunately the noobs struggle to buy xmr and they cant be assed to learn
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/u/Tripsy · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
It's been time for a while, Bitcoin sucks...
/u/BehaviourAnalytica · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
It was ~3 years ago time for that
/u/KurableStim P · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Completely agree: Just a few reasons to Deal in XMR as BTC is a trustless currency. With btc address, outside party can gain info of all transaction input and output that have gone through BTC address; not good. XMR maybe comrade jump through extra hoop to get, but this worth. Comrade ever heard of saying "follow the money," take a second of comrade time to find the amount of informatioin available just from btc address - every transaction received and sent....... MOVE TO XMR team kustim current high suggest exchange aggregate --TROCADOR-- for sweat free exchange btc to XMR, has onion and i2p, no javascript, privacy based, data delete after 14 days, refund guarantee amazing service, search on duck go, , compare all exchange, grades them, only usee grade A exchange, grade a never ask for kyc, grade B sometime ask for kyc and refund if not, do not be attract by low % exchange rate, avoid FIXEDFLOAT at all costs, they have seized held fund and demand kyc, not good. with btc fee higher than ever - delay and all - all more reason for community to switch to xmr and never look back. BTC had it's time - now is time for XMR age, just wait comrade.
As of now, XMR blockchain is uncrackable for another proposed couple decades meaning transaction information is private until then.
With xmr transactions. receiver does not know sender address, this is why for transactions, people ask for txid as proof.
Private The amount of coins you own, send and receive are not observable on the Blockchain. There should be no "rich list" (a list of the largest coin holders).
Untraceable/Unlinkable The coins you send and receive are not traceable (to or from), nor linkable by way of transaction history.
Fungible Every coin is worth the same value and is thus mutually interchangeable. No coin risks potential blacklisting nor devaluement due to deprecating transaction history.
Decentralized All nodes have equal power and control; there are no nodes that have more influence than others, i.e. supernodes. The currency is not created, maintained nor represented by any one person or company, i.e. a central authority.
A recipient is able to receive multiple payments through a single address, while at the same time ensuring there are no links on the blockchain between their address and anybody else's address. This is made possible by stealth addresses, where a random one-time address is automatically created for each transaction being made by the sender. In other words, all payments sent to the recipient are routed to unique addresses on the blockchain, which in turn prevents any links – masking the recipient, and providing no way to see if anybody else has sent coins to the recipient.
While stealth addresses prevent linkability on the blockchain, when and where the coins are then moved by the recipient (if ever), is able to be traced by the original sender of the coins, by identifying outputs on the blockchain. This issue of traceability is solved by the utilization of ring signatures. With ring signatures, outputs are masked, so the sender is not able to tell if it's their coins that are then moved by the recipient, ultimately providing untraceability. This is done by grouping the transaction being sent, with other transactions from the blockchain, to obfuscate the outputs being spent and allowing for plausible deniability.
Privacy, Traceability, Linkability
Bitcoin does not offer privacy and has never claimed to do so. The Bitcoin blockchain is completely transparent; every transaction, its history, and the amount being sent or received is public and easily viewable by an observer. Thus, Bitcoin transactions are easy to trace and link. Although your Bitcoin address is "anonymous" in that no identifying information (e.g. name, address, etc.) is attached to it, it is presumed that at some point you will cash out your Bitcoins (e.g. through an exchange) or you will purchase an item with your Bitcoins (e.g. from a merchant), and you will at that point risk connecting your identity to your Bitcoin address(es), your Bitcoins, and their entire transaction history.
References:
getmonero
/u/Puppet · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
This sounds great, I agree! The privacy of Bitcoin assumes that your wallet address (public key) is not associated with your identity, but KYC exchanges enforce the opposite.
If the identity of the Bitcoin's owner is hidden then transactions would be anonymous, but not private! XMR is both anonymous and private :D
/u/brodybro69 P · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
I agree that we all should be using Monero, but I dont know if we need to ban btc from markets altogether.
I'd imagine the vast majority of darknet purchases are personal amounts. Amounts of drugs that it really doesn't matter (legally) if we are ever caught ordering them (a gram of molly, a ball of coke, 10 tabs of LSD, a qp of weed or less, etc etc etc) as we'll just get a love letter and that's that. (speaking as NA citizen)
For those people, the amount of anonymity is not as make or break as it is for the rest of us on here.
/u/Edmond-Dantes · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Indeed, the time has come and it is long overdue.
E.D.
/u/tripperzipperknight · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
I think it has kind of defacto happened already I mean unless you are placing really large orders the fees of BTC alone are just insane tack that onto any small or medium order and you potentially have a really bad deal. I think the fact so many offer and vendors also accepting XMR already shows that its already in process.
Ive found XMR easy to work with, easy to move and at times super fast. It certainly is one of the coins offering consistent and reasonable transaction processing.
/u/fatzor · 1 votes · 3 weeks ago · Link
what exchanges are people using?
localmonero and agora are increasingly unviable, especially the cash by mail option
/u/fatzor · 1 votes · 3 weeks ago · Link
alpha only accepted xmr and that turned out great
sarcasm flag here
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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how does XMR and an exit tie in together champo.
alpha had escrow.... maybe escrow was the problem. just saying <----- sarcasm ;)
/u/Exalted · 1 votes · 3 weeks ago · Link
they just assume you should use bitcoin because of clever information control pushing them to think bitcoin is anonymous. only way to fix this is by teaching them otherwise.
/u/dankhunter · 1 votes · 3 weeks ago · Link
When WHM was XMR only a bunch of motivated buyers figured out how to use XMR. Strange coincidence
"Want drugs, use XMR". Suddenly the whole world is an expert
The responsibility lies with markets and private shops not with buyers and definitely not with noobs.
The BTC thing is going to come back to haunt some people here, those records are permanent and public. When the quantum guys make cracking PGP the same as cracking a regular password, Pandora's box will not only be opened but liberally fingered.
/u/whatupp P · 0 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
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/u/thesupplier · 0 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
All the popular KYC exchanges have banned XMR. So this won't be possible. The most important thing is convenience. Your average drug user won't be willing to go through all the hoops that one must go through to purchase XMR.
/u/Cannabel · 2 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Nihilism. Its so easy to get xmr. You dont have to buy it in a dark corner. Just exchange your kyc purchased crypto to xmr and then to your fav vendor.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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mate - this terrible logic.
i live in a country that bans XMR purchases from kyc exchange - yet i've never had an issue since Whitehouse market was around converting my fiat to XMR. just takes 1 more step.
onramp with a low fee crypto like litecoin... convert to XMR - send to market.
it is literally 1 step that is super easy and actually keeps your transactions on the DN safe.
there are no Hoops to jump through - just 1 more step.
the attitude of people like you in regards to this subject is appalling and should be shown the door.
it's 2023 mate - BTC isn't safe to use on the DN.
/u/thesupplier · 0 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Listen kid, I was asking the exact same question that you are asking here 5 years ago. I always pondered this question, "why don't markets just be XMR only?" and the reason they don't do is because it will eat into their profits. Customers will just go to another market without XMR.
Let me tell you how 80% of people buy drugs from DN markets. They go to some KYC exchange like coinbase. They buy bitcoin. Then send their bitcoin straight from their coinbase KYC wallet to the drug market to pay for their drugs. The reason this is done is because everyone tells them that Bitcoin is anonymous
Most people are not going through additional hoops like using XMR or mixers etc. The people you see here are a very small percentage of the dark net market buyers.
/u/biscuitofeternalcrunch · 4 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
If there was a coordinated shift by the markets away from BTC to XMR, I think many users would shift over. We saw this happen with WHM. It doesn't necessarily HAVE to be mandatory - for example, you could give users buying with XMR a discount. Soft measures like this (and events like right now where using BTC is insanely expensive) could lead to a situation in which BTC use is less common, and then at some later stage, would be easier to phase out entirely.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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yeah i think old mate forgot to read past the title lol.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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lol.
my question is rhetorical champo.
i am driving discussion around how markets should realise that the current economics are a good driver for moving people to XMR. whitehouse market had no issues being the number 1 market while enforcing both XMR and PGP.
in the current climate where transactions cost $40-50 on BTC people will think twice about using it and it will give a great motivator to move to XMR. that fact, together with markets enforcing XMR will actuall increase profits for all parties and give the buyer more money to spend.
eg: old mate buyer has $100 to spend on drugs and has to pay $50 in fees.. he only has $50 to purchase on a DNM once he gets the funds on to that DNM. that's half the fees for markets and half the profit for a vendor.
it's not rocket science.
grow up with the school yard insults ya dinosaur.
mixers aren't a thing anymore by the way - good to see you are up to date with tech in the sector.
/u/thesupplier · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
I don't disagree with your thread. XMR only markets would be great. But I also understand human nature very well, that's why I say this will be impossible to implement.
The enemy of progress is always convenience. People want things to be convenient.
Take carding for example, a simple fix to prevent carding in 99% of cases would be to implement 2fa for every purchase your card makes. Why don't banks do this? One of the reasons is because it's not convenient and it will result in unhappy customers and people finding other ways to store their money.
It's the same deal here. All the mainstream exchanges have banned XMR and thus as a result purchasing XMR will include another hoop like you mentioned above (namely converting your ltc or whatever to XMR).
The reason market admins don't enforce XMR only market is because they are there to make maximum profit. Not to help the DN community as a whole.
WHM was an anomaly led by someone who was clearly very intelligent and not overly money hungry. People like that are rare.
tldr: I agree that markets should be XMR only, but it will never happen because XMR is currently banned on all mainstream exchanges.
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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there are 2 drivers mate.. convenience and economics.
the opportunity at the moment is based on the economic conditions caused by the extreme BTC fees. something that has happened in the past and will only increase over time with a limited supply and transaction bottlenecks.
[qoute]The reason market admins don't enforce XMR only market is because they are there to make maximum profit. Not to help the DN community as a whole. [/quote] yes - i outlined that, this makes economics a driving factor, and the changed condition would allow for a shock with the potential to effect the change.
the convenience of bitcoin diminishes exponentially the more it costs to transact.
/u/Tobi4v · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Bold to say for a 12 hour old account
/u/ChemicalsInChains P · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
lol haha
/u/HumanPie NewKidInTown · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
A major part of Dread is education. Just because it's more convenient to use BTC doesn't mean the community should give up on proper procedures together with unmatched efforts of information sharing and guidance.
/u/thesupplier · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
I believe dread only makes up a small percentage of the users on drug markets. Most of the the users come from other places. Those of us who use dread frequently are probably at least in the 90th percentile when it comes to OpSec
/u/dankservices · 0 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Markets should enable bitcoin lightning, because bitcoin is much easier for customers to get a hold of than xmr.
/u/BehaviourAnalytica · 2 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
Markets should use PayPal because it's much easier to get a hold of it than BTC, also PayPal already got in build in dispute resolution system, I'm sure we could use this to further improve markets
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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again.. bitcoin is traceable and this is the dark net.
/u/dankservices · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
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/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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he mate. read the sub rules.
#2 especially ;)
/u/dankservices · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
one of those comments was mostly sharing information but I see how I could have broke that rule
/u/dontlaugh Darknet Shaman
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all good. we're pretty tight on that rule across the subs except /d/DNMAds.
so it's not singled out at you or anything.
/u/dankservices · 1 votes · 4 weeks ago · Link
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