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Update on Determination of Mailability

by /u/ThrowAwayACC987 · 2 votes · 1 week ago

Recap: Informed delivery gave a package "Determination of Mailability" warning on package.

Update: They sent me a letter. I know other people have mentioned this but hopefully this adds some clarity. Here's a rundown of the letter for future knowledge sake


United States Postal Inspection Service

Criminal Investigations Service Center

*Personal Info*

Subject: Mail Withheld from Delivery

Dear Postal Customer:

The purpose of this letter is to advise you that pursuant to 39 U.S.C § 3001, and U.S. Postal Service Regulations, an item placed into the U.S. Postal Service mail stream is currently being withheld from delivery as there are reasonable grounds to believe its contents are nonmailable as proscribed in U.S. Postal Service Publication 52, Hazardous, Restricted, and Perishable Mail. Our attempts to contact you and the sender to obtain additional information have been unsuccessful.

The specifics concerning this mailing are listed below:

*Personal Info*

If you do not understand the reason this letter is being sent to you; or if you wish to discuss this matter, provide evidence that the mail does not contain nonmailable items, or to make arrangements for the sender to retrieve the mail piece, please call 1-800-372-8347 and press 4 (8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. CT, Monday through Friday). Please provide the reference number above.

*Flip to other side*

You may also choose to appeal the determination that the content of the mail piece are nonmailable by filing a written appeal with the Recorder, Judicial Officer Department, U.S. Postal Service, 2101 Wilson Boulevard, Suite 600, Arlington, VA 22201-3078, or at the following Internet address: https://uspsjoe dot justware dot com/JusticeWeb

The appeal shall:

(a) Identify the appellant;

(b) Describe or be accompanied by a copy of the determination or ruling being appealed (this letter);

(c) Describe the character or content of the matter the appellant wishes to have carried and delivered by the U.S. Postal Server;

(d) Request review of the determination or ruling, specifying each and every reason why the appellant believes the determination or ruling should be reversed;

(e) Indicate whether the appellant desires to have an oral hearing or, instead, to have the case decided solely on the basis of the written record (i.e., the appeal, the General Counsel's or Chief Postal Inspector's or his or her designee's reply and any documents submitted by the parties pursuant to an order of the presiding officer); and

(f) Bear the signature, typed of printed name, title, business address, and telephone number of any attorney at law representing the appellant in bringing the appeal, and of each individual appellant or, if the appellant is a partnership, corporation, limited liability company, or unincorporated association, of the managing partner, chief executive officer, chief operating officer, or other officer authorized to bind the organization.

The Rules of Practice in Proceedings Relative to Mailability can be found at Title 39, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 953.

Please also provide a copy of the above appeal and materials to:

U.S. Postal Inspection Service

Office of COunsel

ANP Appeals

475 L'Enfant Plaza, SW Suite 3100

Washington, DC 20260-3100

If within twenty-one (21) calendar days of the date of this notice no action is taken by the sender of recipient (or their agent) to address the determination of nonmailability of the mail piece, it will be deemed abandoned or unclaimed pursuant to Postal Operations Manual, Section 691.584.



Criminal Investigations Service Center


I looked up that section in the Postal Operations Manual, here's a link to that

https://about dot usps dot com/postal-bulletin/2015/pb22428/html/updt_009 dot htm

So I'm assuming that they haven't gotten a warrant to open the mail, but somehow figured out it's drugs (whether that be terrible stealth, Raman Spectroscopy, etc...). And now are just waiting till it counts as dead mail so they can open it and find out. But at least we know it's not just "bad address formatting" or "shitty stamps" or something similar

Welcoming any advise or opinions on what might happen. Obviously clean house and get a lawyer, anything else?

Comments (4)
/u/kurwa · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

Sounds very scary. Good luck my friend!

/u/newbieforever2018 "You've got ★bail★" · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

This is pretty much the domestic equivalent of a love letter.

I'll have a serving of this please: " it will be deemed abandoned or unclaimed".

Anything else? Obviously don't order anything that could be nonmailable to that address again.

/u/Preview-Of-Freedom · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

i could be mistaken but if memory serves me and nothing has changed then when parcels are determined to be "dead letters" they are destroyed and not opened or investigated. thank you for contributing to the sharing of important information.

/u/huskerguy69 · 1 votes · 1 week ago · Link

appreciate the post man this is good to know